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02/24/2007 2:46 PM  
Cant get the furnace to light, tried the tips in the service manual, relight sequence but no luck.  Fan runs but no flame.  In order to test further it seems I may have to remove the whole furnace to get at the switches and igniter board.  At first look I don't think there is enough room to get it out without taking the cabinet apart (on my 82 310 it is under the sink beside the stove), it looks like they put in the furnace and then built the sink/counter unit around it.  Has any one removed their furnace or have any ideas about troubleshooting before I take it out
 
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02/24/2007 2:58 PM  
I assume you have enough 12V power going to the unit to get the sail switch to make contact and you have enough propane?

If so, the only furnace I've removed was in a Monaco. It was buried under the fridge. Removed the gas line (turn off the gas first)...then the ductwork, then four screws in the face plate removed the intake/exhaust plate on the exterior and everything slide out into the center ailse.


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02/24/2007 4:35 PM  
Voltage is crucial with a furnace.  I had problems with mine until I cleaned all the ground straps from the battery box to the chasis.  It was like a miracle!  Now everything works right.  It's an easy fix to try and a lot quicker than removing a furnace.

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02/24/2007 9:38 PM  
I have checked the voltage at the furnace, seemed to be ok.  I have not checked the grounding connections for any corrosion though.  I will look at that tomorrow. thanks
 
 
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02/24/2007 11:58 PM  
Hey Mark, I have had mine out and serviced it completely!
 
There are two ways that you can remove it, the whole furnace or just the inside.
 
To remove the whole unit, you need to shut off the gas, disconnect the line, unplug the electric on the right side, and remove two screws in the front going into the floor. If you remove the panels on the double doors under the sink, you can see the hot water heater, and have access to the electric plug. Also remove the three duct lines.
 
You will not have to remove the vent on the outside to do this, unless you want to take and reseal it. I tried to find a new one, but even suburban said they have not made them in quite a while! So I made my own!
 
With the carpet down, you will have a tough time removing the whole furnace. Unless you remove the carpet in front of the unit, you will have to loosen up the screws that hold down the cabinet, and they are behind the carpet that is attached to the kick panel!
 
To remove just the inside of the unit, you will still have to unplug the electric, and unhook the gas line, then remove the valve, so that it will clear the door frame on the right.
There will be one screw on the right side, at the bottom just under the high limit cut out switch.
 
Here is a link for some service manuals that has helped me. None of them are just for our unit, but not much has changed over the years.  www.bryantrv.com/docs.html
 
The board on our units, if it is orginal, fires the igniter only once. If it don't see a flame, it will go into lock out, fan will run but, burner won't come on. The newer boards tries 3 times before lock out. To reset, just turn of at thermostat and back on.
 
My unit had the cast iron burner in it and boy was it plugged up! I first tried to service it with out taking out the unit, but had to. Mud daubers (in the south dirt daubers) like to build nest in our units if kept outside. The only way to get them out, it to take the whole burn chamber out. The manuals will help you with that.
 
Some say to replace the unit, and I think the new units will fit, but at over $500 I got my old unit running ok, and the chamber looked good to go!
 
Let me know if I can be of any more help. I can take you some photos if that would help.
 
Good luck!
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02/25/2007 8:10 PM  
Dirt Daubers are evil beings from hell..
They have distroyed everything from freshly built engines to air hoses.
$1000s of dollars and frustration

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02/25/2007 8:12 PM  
Dirt Daubers are evil beings from hell..
They have distroyed everything from freshly built engines to air hoses.
$1000s of dollars and frustration.

Had one build a blob on the AC fan, squirrel cage type, sounded like roof was going to come apart!

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02/25/2007 9:30 PM  
Thanks CMAdmaxman, at least in know it will eventually come out.  Downloaded the manual from that site, seems to have good info.  Tried again to remove furnace but no luck, it moves about an inch then stops, this happens when I try to move the inside unit or the whole furnace.  The cabinet post that has the door hinges on it is in the way (I will post a picture when I figure out how to make the file smaller).  All was not lost however, I got a little discouraged with my lack of progress on the furnace and directed my attention on another slow moving project.  Removing the ice-maker to gain access to the uni-volt which I want to replace with an Inteli-Power 70 amp unit.  I found 2 screws that I had previously overlooked, and with a lot of wiggling and tugging out it came.  The uni-volt is mine at last.  Actually it was a busy weekend in Sammie, Joy started to clean the sticky walls.  She used some POR-15 Marine Clean which works well when diluted 1:1, also requires a lot of scrubbing. 

The road goes on forever, and the party never ends (Robert Earl Keen).

Mark, Joy, Eric and Speck
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02/26/2007 7:16 AM  
Right on with the dirt daubers!
 
Make sure that you have the gas cut off valve off the unit. A PO had cut a notch in the side cover that would allow you to take the unit out of the case without removing the valve. That works ok when you have the whole unit out, but while in the case and in the coach won't clear the door post.
 
I would go ahead and take off the outside vent. Over the years the slip fit could have rusted enough to keep you sliding it out. That will also let you know if that is your hang up.
 
Don't have the ice maker, but while your in that area, check your shower valve. Airstream did a mickey mouse mounting on the unit and the seal leaked when water got around the valve beauty cover. I replaced my whole shower valve with a Kohler, used copper pipe coming out of the valve so that I could mount it better. Could have used the old valve, but just had this new Kohler that I was not using.
 
To down size your pic's, open your micosoft photo, and do a resize, and as save as for the new small file.









Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
2 Corinthians 3:17 NIV
http://classicmotorhomesonline.com/Members/tabid/826/PID/9/Default.aspx

Chris & Brenda
1982 310 Airstream
Towin a 98 Saturn SL2 or 96 HD Ultra Classic.
Members of the Christian Motorcyclists Association.
2001 Duramax Crew Cab (Totaled) Powertrain for the 310???
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02/26/2007 7:11 PM  
Good job on plumbing, I must do the same.

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