87MH
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| 03/17/2007 8:34 PM |
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Good time to change out the fluid.
If you do not know how old the Brake Fluid is in your unit any time you service one of the brakes is a good time to change out the entire fluid system. As good as the new stylebrake fluid is, some water does leak into the system from time to time. Besides forming an immobile sludge, brake line condensate becomes terribly acidic, and can cause a brake line leak at the most inopportune moment.
NAPA carries a relatively cheap tool which pulls a vaccuum (changes the fluid in the line) at each slave cylinder via a hand held vaccuum pump. Price is less than $20, and turns a brake fluid job into a one man operation. I say one man, because if any of you have had to use your significant other (that means wife, most of the time) to assist in a brake bleed operation, you know what I am talking about - does the phrase "pump it three times and HOLD IT" sound familiar? - just what part of "hold it" does the female psyche find difficult to understand?
But I digress -
The vaccuum tool is a good item to add to your tool box - I carry one in the belly of the beast.
Some of you may recall from the "other" forum a serious brake problem I had a couple of years ago on the 345 - after changing out about three Master Cylinders, I discovered that the vertical rod link between the brake pedal and the Master Cylinder needed adjustment - there was not enough play in the relaxed position and the rod was not allowing the master cylinder to release brake fluid pressure when relaxed. I do not think I would have been able to change out the master cylinder on the road without the hand held vaccuum tool.
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Dennis Newbie - Black Water Dump Qualified
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guy99
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| 03/17/2007 9:03 PM |
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In an earlier post in this thread I mentione DOT 4 and DOT 5. I
suggest anyone doing major brake work consider a fluid upgrade.
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| 03/17/2007 11:07 PM |
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| I second Dennis and Guy...no time better than now to change the fluid...and the vacuum tool makes it a much easier job. |
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Airstream345 Site Host
 Classic Master Posts:1335

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| 03/20/2007 10:14 PM |
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Steven, What was the symptom of the leaking MC seal? OBTW, I had the MC replaced last year.
Also, in your experience what is the best way to get access to the MC?
I too check under hood every travel day morning. Also check the generator oil and coolant. I have Smartire so I no longer have to check the tires every morning as I used to.
As I tell my wife, I know someday the engine (or whatever) will go, I just don't want it to be becasue I didn't check fluids etc.
[/quote] I don't really know what was wrong with the old MC...it was loosing fluid but I never did figure out where. I pulled the plate that covers it off, if I really try and I can wedge in there and pop the top with a flat bladed screwdriver..then use my finger to "feel" the level. |
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Steven Webster 1986 Airstream Classic 345 Host, ThisOldRV.com |
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klattu
 Classic Camper Posts:129

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| 03/21/2007 10:07 AM |
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Heres what I found...is still unfolding. Spongy brake pedal is what I started investigating... Fluid was low in front reservoir, so filled it up. Pumping brakes would get some pedal feel.
Important info... Every part I have bought ended up being for the JF9 brake system. Will come back with list.
Crap! wheres photos! OK...strange...if I go to edit, options appear.
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klattu
 Classic Camper Posts:129

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| 03/21/2007 10:37 AM |
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Well...better go check my blood pressure...uploaded photos and can't see them.
Ok...what a pain!, have to post, then go back to edit, only 3 photos at a time...whew...is this like community service? Am I being punished for some reason? Whos the smitty? 'Brake' these shackles off!
Well, came back to add text between photos...no way Ho'se! I must have lost my mind to even think of such a thing.
On the 3rd photo of this 'set' (I can't see, so am guessing)
#1 Nut = 15mm #2 Bolt 9/16" #3 Line = 9/16", Even though each line is different size, fittings are same
#1 and #2 are 'deformed' nuts...they are tough all the way off, no free spinning when loose |



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klattu
 Classic Camper Posts:129

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| 03/21/2007 10:41 AM |
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| Dang..I think doing the work was easier than this! |



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klattu
 Classic Camper Posts:129

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| 03/21/2007 10:42 AM |
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| No instant gradification here...we make you work for it! |



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klattu
 Classic Camper Posts:129

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| 03/21/2007 10:44 AM |
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Woah!!!! Your nuts are going to tighten up when y'all see what else I found! Never seen anything like it...off to the parts store, to place an order of course.
Numbers in RED above are order to assemble...get those lines on first while you have some flexablity. Plus you can rotate wrench farther. Bracket will fit around, just keep wiggling. Tighten bracket bolts only after all are started. |
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 Classic Master Posts:1335

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| 03/21/2007 6:26 PM |
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| I almost hate to ask this question....but did you bench bleed the MC before you installed it? |
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