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03/21/2007 7:44 PM  
Wow...Advance had the Calipers and Brake Pads In Stock!
NAPA had the Brake Hose

Caliper #18-4167                                                                                      $35.94 each
Bendix Pads #MKD149 (very Semi-met, I got splinters that prove it)        $53.48 riveted
Brake Hose #38167                                                                                   $23.??

And all of these were for the JF9 brake system.












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03/21/2007 7:53 PM  
The brake hose was acting like a check valve...pressure was able to apply to the caliper, but not release.
A good way to know this is if you open the bleeder, and have no flow, other than a quick burst, you have a problem.
Drivers side flowed free, right side would not.
I think that hose is what started the whole problem.












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03/21/2007 7:56 PM  
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03/21/2007 8:17 PM  
Odd...I get to end of first three photos and no more of thread?
Go to front page and each post is there ?

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03/21/2007 9:03 PM  
YIKES!!!! You are lucky lucky man!

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03/21/2007 9:20 PM  
Yes, checking into this strange behavior now.

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03/22/2007 8:59 AM  
Brake fluid debate.
The DOT 5 fluid is silicone. This is great for a collector car that sets most of it's life. On the surface you would think that it would also be great for our motorhomes as well. The problem with silicone is if the brakes get hot, like going down a long grade, the silicone will expand and cause dragging brakes. A friend of mine tried it on his race car with very bad results. Almost burned the car to the ground. The pedal will also always be a little soft compaired to 3 or 4.
The newer DOT 4 fluids are very good, high boiling point. But having said that, you should still think about a total fluid flush at least every other year.
I use the same fluid in the motorhome that I use in the race car. It is ATE Super Blue. I think is is German. The blue is VERY blue. If you have a leak in something, it is easy to see if it is brake fluid or something else. They also make ATE 200 which is the same straw color or clear like regular fluid. Both of these fluids are the same, just the color is different. This is important when you are bleeding the system. You just switch between the two. Blue one time, clear the next. By doing this, you know when the fresh fluid is coming through.
The vacuum bleeders are the way to go also.
If you go to about any race parts supplier they will stock the ATE fluids.
Hope this helps, Rob
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03/22/2007 9:38 AM  
Dot Con
Tried the silicone when it was the new stuff...late 70s/early 80s.
Was about $25 a quart, that was a big chunk of my spending cash back then too!
In a VW rail I built...all brake parts were new.
Had tractor brakes, and it did just what your saying...held on the side I pulled and would not release.
Was very imbarrasing
Stuff turned to jelly.
Never again, I don't care what they say.
I learned not to trust all the hype pushed on products.
(Holley if one of my least favorite)
If I can find it on the shelf at Wal Mart, it goes in the basket.
Its DOT 3 for me.

When I bleed brakes, yes have all the vacuum pumps and valves, I went back to my simple standard...
I'm the submarine maning the bleeder...
Helper is in the drivers seat...
My instructions are simply two words...

UP

DOWN

Each one is held until next command.

I open bleeder during each stroke on the way down,
Turn it off before saying UP.

Don't really understand how I can avoid changing all the fluid?
By the time the bubble from the master cylinder arrives at the bleeder, all the old fluid is on the ground.

Two way radios really help during this.
Was my first to use them, I kept mine keyed up, and helper just has to listen.

I see, (don't see) the photos from the rest of my story are missing.

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03/22/2007 9:39 AM  
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03/22/2007 10:11 AM  
Klattu, you should do a DIY spread on this.  I for one am learning a lot from it.  I'd like to be able to pull it up later.

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